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<big>Special Thanks To: <span class="pops" >[http://www.minecraftforum.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=270214 Kingy24]</span>! </big>
<center>Special thanks to [http://www.minecraftforum.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=270214 Kingy24]</center>


<span style="color:#0066FF">updated to v6.80 by [[User:Talonius|Talonius]]</span>
<center>Updated to v6.80 by [[User:Talonius|Talonius]]</center>
'''Please note this tutorial was made for IC1 and is largely out of date for IC2'''


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<span style="color:#FF0000">'''WARNING''' This tutorial is currently being updated to IC2 and may contain incorrect information. </span>


Warning!!! This tutorial is under a update to IC2 and may contain incorrect info until it is finished(and even then their may be a mistake(hey I'm not perfect but i don't see you doing it!))


Forum post about IC2 Wiring: [http://forum.industrial-craft.net/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=497 forum.industrial-craft.net]
Forum post about IC2 Wiring by Alblaka: [http://forum.industrial-craft.net/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=497 forum.industrial-craft.net]




'''First''', [[Cable]]s do not act like Redstone, you can '''not place them diagonally to travel in a stair formation'''. They '''must be placed orthogonally'''.
Firstly, [[Cable]]s do not act like redstone; you cannot place them diagonally to travel in a stair formation. They must be placed like stairs.


insert a pic of improper and proper placement of wires here
<center>[[File:Wiring stair tut.png|link=]]</center>
COMPLETED THE PHOTO just need to upload


Machines will accept power input from '''all 6 sides'''.
Most machines will accept power from a wire on all 6 sides, but you (usually) only need one input.


[[file:wiring_1.png|link=]]


[[Generator]]s will '''output power from all 6 sides''' <span style="color:#0066FF">(but only from '''one''' side at any one time)</span>, however '''don't cover the top of a [[Solar Panel]]''', for obvious reasons.


[[Generator]]s will '''output power from all 6 sides''' <span style="color:#0066FF">(but only from '''one''' side at any one time)</span>, however '''don't cover the top of a [[Solar Panel]]''' for obvious reasons.
[[file:gen wiring tut.png|link=]]


[[file:wiring_2.png|link=]]


Starting simple this is the most basic set up without omitting a [[BatBox]]. The max [[Cable|insulated cable]] length for copper is achieved here. The '''cable is <span style="color:#0066FF">4</span> blocks long'''. <s><span style="color:#0066FF">'''You lose [[EU]] if the current in the cable travels for too long, losing 1 [[EU]] upon reaching the 4th block,  then another 1 [[EU]] for every 3 blocks after that. but if you use the most advanced wire, "Glass Fibre Cable," you can  achieve a length of 50 blocks.'''</span></s> Does not apply to latest versions of IC2 Experimental (v2.2.x)


Starting simple this is the most basic set up without omitting a [[BatBox]]. The max [[Cable|insulated cable]] length is achieved here. The '''cable is <span style="color:#0066FF">4</span> blocks long'''. <span style="color:#0066FF">'''You lose [[EU]] if the current in the cable travels for too long, losing 1 [[EU]] upon reaching the 5th block, then another 1 [[EU]] for every 5 blocks after that.'''</span>


[[file:wiring_3.png|link=]]
This setup will not work as the BatBox is not a splitter and it doesn't have two outputs, '''it will accept input from 5 sides at the same time but will only output on the output face marked with dot'''.


[[File:Wiring batbox tut.png|link=]]


This setup will not work as the BatBox is not a splitter, '''it will accept input from 5 sides at the same time but will only output on the output face marked with dot'''.


[[file:wiring_4.png|link=]]
This is a simple buffer, it can be used to store [[EU]] for use without running the generator


 
[[File:Buffer tut.png|link=]]
This is a simple buffer, it can be used to  [[EU]]
 
[[file:wiring_5.png|link=]]




This is a simple 2x solar flower setup with a loop. This will enable you to spread [[EU]] around your Factory and not have it bottleneck in any particular spot. Take note the '''BatBox connecting the generators to the loop.
This is a simple 2x solar flower setup with a loop. This will enable you to spread [[EU]] around your Factory and not have it bottleneck in any particular spot. Take note the '''BatBox connecting the generators to the loop.
that way the [[EU]] will be evenly distributed around the area. In the center of the solar flower there is a wire, a normal,average wire.(because of advances in the programing of the wires they now allow to be connected upto 6 sides simultaneously opposed to the 3 side max in IC.)
that way the [[EU]] will be evenly distributed around the area. In the center of the solar flower there is a wire, a normal,average wire.(because of advances in the programing of the wires they now allow to be connected up to 6 sides simultaneously opposed to the 3 side max in IC.)


[[file:wiring_6.png|link=]]
[[file:Power loop tut.png|link=]]




Now for something more advanced, the [[MFE]]. This is an example of an improper setup of an MFE before I place the 2 wires in the second picture
Now for something more advanced, the [[MFE]]. This is an example of an improper setup of an MFE before I turn off the redstone as shown in the second picture


[[file:wiring_7.png|link=]]
[[file:Before tut.png|link=]]




and after I placed the 2 wires above the HVT
and after I placed the 2 wires above the MFE will output one 128 EU packet and everything crispifies. (Latest IC2 Experimental versions do not do this)


[[file:wiring_8.png|link=]]
[[file:After tut.png|link=]]




this caused a '''loop of power to be sent from the top of the MFE(output) back into the batBox hence killing the setup.(and wasting the wire because it couldnt handle the power and just melted)
this caused a '''loop of power to be sent from the top of the MFE(output) back into the batBox hence killing the setup.(and wasting the wire because it couldnt handle the power and just melted)
To properly use a MFE, you need to use a [[LV_Transformer|Low Voltage Transformer. the MFE is used to scale the voltage up and the [[LV_Transformer|Low voltage transformer]] to scale it back down. Quite similar to real life and your local power grid.doing this increases the range of the power but needs a better [[Cable]]. The energy loss is less because you are sending less packets that are larger, they '''still lose [[EU]] over the cable but you lose less'''.  
To properly use a MFE, you need to use a [[LV_Transformer|Low Voltage Transformer]] and gold or better wire. the MFE is used to scale the voltage up and the [[LV_Transformer|Low voltage transformer]] to scale it back down. Quite similar to real life and your local power grid.doing this increases the range of the power but needs a better [[Cable]]. The energy loss is less because you are sending less packets that are larger, they '''still lose [[EU]] over the cable but you lose less'''.  


[[file:wiring_9.png|link=]]
[[file:wiring_9.png|link=]]




Next is series of machines, and current splitting. You can have you machines in a row and power them from one MFE the excess is sent back to the MFE and stored. I this setup I have the maximum cable length without loss (to prevent continuous loss of power) and the measurements listed are from right to left and the last one receiving 0 [[EU]]. the Eu splits evenly between each machine as it acts like a cable end.
Next is series of machines, and current splitting. You can have your machines in a row and power them from one MFE the excess is sent back to the MFE and stored. In this setup I have the maximum cable length without loss (to prevent continuous loss of power) and the measurements listed are from right to left and the last one receiving 0 [[EU]]. the Eu splits evenly between each machine as it acts like a cable end.


[[file:wiring_10.png|link=]]
[[file:wiring_10.png|link=]]




and this is with an MFE output of 50[[EU]]s
and this is with an MFE output of 128[[EU]]s


[[file:wiring_11.png|link=]]
[[file:wiring_11.png|link=]]
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Next up is Miners and making them do what you want them to. I the first setup I have a solar flower powering a MFE => HVT => HVT => Miner. This is a one way operation, but the miner can only accept so much [[EU]] at a time therefore the 2000 [[EU]] sent towards the miner will sometimes be rejected and get sent back. causing loss each way. This can happen as often as once each frame causing massive power loss.
Next up is Miners and making them do what you want them to. In the first setup I have a solar flower powering a MFE => HVT => HVT => Miner. This is a one way operation, but the miner can only accept so much [[EU]] at a time therefore the 2000 [[EU]] sent towards the miner will sometimes be rejected and get sent back. causing loss each way. This can happen as often as once each frame causing massive power loss.


[[file:wiring_14.png|link=]]
[[file:wiring_14.png|link=]]
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Take note that I have '''all but one of the 5 available sides of the miner covered as to direct the item toward the conveyor''', and a small 3 long wall to stop the items from being shot over the conveyor.
Take note that I have '''all but one of the 5 available sides of the miner covered as to direct the item toward the conveyor''', and a small 3 long wall to stop the items from being shot over the conveyor.


(added by tomahawk232)
Wanted to add some notes I took on this to help update the info
Transformers are special, they downgrade your voltage so you can use a mfe or mfsu to  your power. Unlike the storage units (mfe), tramsformers have 5 output sides and 1 input side. the wrench changes the input direction of the transformer, and the direction transformers should be pointing is towards the cable inputting energy. Transformers don't modify the voltage to a certain level, they reduce the voltage level ONLY( a Medium Voltage(MV) transformer changes High voltage(HV) to MV). So you cannot use a MV transformer to make low voltage(LV) into MV. You have to downgrade the voltage, as in you have to turn HV into MV before you turn MV into LV. The wiring and machines using power will blow up if you try to skip the MV transformer and go straight from high to low.
For solar flowers, you can make them bigger, but you must keep in mind, copper only transfers 32 EU/t, so if you make a giant array of only copper and bat boxes, you WILL lose energy guarenteed. Also, Bigger solar panel arrays are resource intensive, so making a big array early on can be a waste of effort, since you need so much iron, I would wait untill you have a good pile before starting construction. A nuclear device can also be alot cheaper comparitively. But, this makes power daily, and when set up right, can fill up an mfsu within 2 days operation. Thats more power than your machines need, except for the tesla, teleport, teraformer, or mass fabricator. 1 day is usually enough to keep a wall of machines running day and night. And you dont need constant maintenance from the nuclear reactor.
This solar flower is my design, but the solar flower idea isn't mine, just the bigger 1, and im not 100% sure if it is price effective. But i dont waste any powered gained through this array.
You could also make the whole thing of iron cables and mfsu's, but that would be wasteful because if you have the resources to make such a grid, would you really need the grid in the 1st place?
What I do is have 1 mfsu in the center, since it holds, gains, and shoots the most energy of all storage units. surround it with iron cable, since this will be the area with the most need 4 power. Make the iron around in a + just as the flower is made, and at each end, I would place an mfe outputting towards the center. Mfsu's here would be wasteful, since the main mfsu can only accept 512EU/t, meaning of the 4 cables(each carrying 512EU/t) only 1 cable's worth(512) would be accepted, the other 3 are wasted here. After you placed the mfe's, gold cable should be coming out each side of each mfe, since the mfe accepts 128, iron is a waste, and copper is too wasteful. After the cable, comes bat boxes on each gold cable, with copper going out from each direction of each bat box, except up or down. Now, the reason I downgrade with HV in the middle and LV from the outer rim is because the power flows inward toward the mfsu, and at the outer rim, there isn't much energy at 1st. the energy is collected at the bat boxes, then the energy is sent inward. As it goes inward, more panels are joining the flow, so there has to be more space(in the cable) then the storage unit is pumping out.
Lastly, instead of using fibre cables, I put down cable from the main storage unit, then a storage unit every 3rd or 4th spot, for multiple reasons. 1st, the energy lost every 5th cable isn't lost since there isn't a 4th cable, and the storage units act as an extension of the main base power, since it can be stored in the transport line. Just beware the power conversions, they get real tricky at times, and if you use a mfsu, remember you must use a transformer to change the voltage, HV, to MV BEFORE changing it to LV if your planning on powering your base. Because most machines run on LV.


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Latest revision as of 23:19, 7 August 2015

Special thanks to Kingy24
Updated to v6.80 by Talonius

Outdated Content: This information is outdated and does not apply to the current version of IC².


WARNING This tutorial is currently being updated to IC2 and may contain incorrect information.


Forum post about IC2 Wiring by Alblaka: forum.industrial-craft.net


Firstly, Cables do not act like redstone; you cannot place them diagonally to travel in a stair formation. They must be placed like stairs.

Wiring stair tut.png

Most machines will accept power from a wire on all 6 sides, but you (usually) only need one input.


Generators will output power from all 6 sides (but only from one side at any one time), however don't cover the top of a Solar Panel, for obvious reasons.

Gen wiring tut.png


Starting simple this is the most basic set up without omitting a BatBox. The max insulated cable length for copper is achieved here. The cable is 4 blocks long. You lose EU if the current in the cable travels for too long, losing 1 EU upon reaching the 4th block, then another 1 EU for every 3 blocks after that. but if you use the most advanced wire, "Glass Fibre Cable," you can achieve a length of 50 blocks. Does not apply to latest versions of IC2 Experimental (v2.2.x)


This setup will not work as the BatBox is not a splitter and it doesn't have two outputs, it will accept input from 5 sides at the same time but will only output on the output face marked with dot.

Wiring batbox tut.png


This is a simple buffer, it can be used to store EU for use without running the generator

Buffer tut.png


This is a simple 2x solar flower setup with a loop. This will enable you to spread EU around your Factory and not have it bottleneck in any particular spot. Take note the BatBox connecting the generators to the loop. that way the EU will be evenly distributed around the area. In the center of the solar flower there is a wire, a normal,average wire.(because of advances in the programing of the wires they now allow to be connected up to 6 sides simultaneously opposed to the 3 side max in IC.)

Power loop tut.png


Now for something more advanced, the MFE. This is an example of an improper setup of an MFE before I turn off the redstone as shown in the second picture

Before tut.png


and after I placed the 2 wires above the MFE will output one 128 EU packet and everything crispifies. (Latest IC2 Experimental versions do not do this)

After tut.png


this caused a loop of power to be sent from the top of the MFE(output) back into the batBox hence killing the setup.(and wasting the wire because it couldnt handle the power and just melted) To properly use a MFE, you need to use a Low Voltage Transformer and gold or better wire. the MFE is used to scale the voltage up and the Low voltage transformer to scale it back down. Quite similar to real life and your local power grid.doing this increases the range of the power but needs a better Cable. The energy loss is less because you are sending less packets that are larger, they still lose EU over the cable but you lose less.

Wiring 9.png


Next is series of machines, and current splitting. You can have your machines in a row and power them from one MFE the excess is sent back to the MFE and stored. In this setup I have the maximum cable length without loss (to prevent continuous loss of power) and the measurements listed are from right to left and the last one receiving 0 EU. the Eu splits evenly between each machine as it acts like a cable end.

Wiring 10.png


and this is with an MFE output of 128EUs

Wiring 11.png


as you can see it is useless to make lines of machines any longer than 5 and 4 would be optimal as the last 2 would receive 8/2 = 4 EU each, which will power most common machines easily. You could use the 50 EU output if you wanted to power say 4 crystal chargers in a row.

You can then save space and stack your machines in a feasible 3x4 array like so.

Wiring 12.png


and the back to power them

Wiring 13.png


Next up is Miners and making them do what you want them to. In the first setup I have a solar flower powering a MFE => HVT => HVT => Miner. This is a one way operation, but the miner can only accept so much EU at a time therefore the 2000 EU sent towards the miner will sometimes be rejected and get sent back. causing loss each way. This can happen as often as once each frame causing massive power loss.

Wiring 14.png


A better way to do it is using Switch Cables. these accept input on all sides but the bottom, (which is the output). However if you apply Redstone current it will make the top output and the bottom input. This can be used as a switch before sending Eu from the MFE =>HVT. This way you can shut the whole operation down and let the MFEs charge up.

Wiring 15.png

The miner can be set up to automate with water streams as well. however I use Feanorith's Mine Factory Mod that lets you build a conveyor. This is easier then digging trenches and placing water buckets. It also can travel ridiculously long lengths, and never have to dig one block down. This is similar to water running on iceblocks (if you can craft em)

Wiring 16.png


Take note that I have all but one of the 5 available sides of the miner covered as to direct the item toward the conveyor, and a small 3 long wall to stop the items from being shot over the conveyor.