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:Do you know how to make an Iron Shaft? It hasn't been added to the wiki yet, and no version of the Kinetic Wind Generator can be built without it. Also, do you know if the Manual Kinetic Generator is working yet? I see it listed on the Recipes page. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] ([[User talk:Trifler|talk]]) 16:37, 2 March 2015 (CET)
:Do you know how to make an Iron Shaft? It hasn't been added to the wiki yet, and no version of the Kinetic Wind Generator can be built without it. Also, do you know if the Manual Kinetic Generator is working yet? I see it listed on the Recipes page. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] ([[User talk:Trifler|talk]]) 16:37, 2 March 2015 (CET)
::You make the Shaft (Iron) in a Metal Former by extruding an Iron Block. The Manual Kinetic Generator works perfectly, it generates 100 EU per action (right click) when connected to a Kinetic Generator. I get ~15EU/t by standing there holding the right mouse button.--[[User:Max Shen|Max Shen]] ([[User talk:Max Shen|talk]]) 17:40, 4 March 2015 (CET)
::You make the Shaft (Iron) in a Metal Former by extruding an Iron Block. The Manual Kinetic Generator works perfectly, it generates 100 EU per action (right click) when connected to a Kinetic Generator. I get ~15EU/t by standing there holding the right mouse button.--[[User:Max Shen|Max Shen]] ([[User talk:Max Shen|talk]]) 17:40, 4 March 2015 (CET)
:::Cool. Thx. :) --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] ([[User talk:Trifler|talk]]) 05:49, 5 March 2015 (CET)

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This page needs some serious reworking, especially since I imagine it is one of the more frequented pages on the wiki. Stuff like Kinetic and Heat power aren't even in here. I can see people are probably a little sentimental about the photos from Beta 1.4, but that was four years ago (March 2011) and the information in that Wind Power section (which I just removed) literally hasn't been updated since it was first added July 28, 2012. --Max Shen (talk) 07:05, 28 February 2015 (CET)

It's hard to update this beyond what the wiki has. For example, the wiki still lists the information for Wind Mill that you just deleted, along with Youtube videos from 2012 and 2013. I did a major update last summer to bring it up to experimental, but I didn't remove any old pics. Updates to this guide pretty much have to be made to the main wiki first. If you know enough to update the Wind Mill page, that would be great. Then we could add the new version to this guide. I would add Kinetic and Heat power, but I don't know how they work myself. I don't really see how they add anything over electricity, but then again I haven't tried it. If you want to write something up, I'd be happy to edit it, if needed. I'll try to find some time to mess around with the new version of the mod, but by the time I catch up there'll probably be another major revision. --Trifler (talk) 08:29, 28 February 2015 (CET)
Ok I took a good look at the new Wind Generator and the Heat stuff. I definitely don't like the durability times for the rotors, especially of the wood ones, since they're the only ones you can make from a renewable resource. It looks like the Heat stuff is mostly about making Refined Iron, so it probably doesn't need to be in a First Steps guide, unless more stuff is added later. The Stirling Engine is kind of weird because if you hook up a solid or liquid heat generator to a Stirling Engine, you've basically created a two-block Generator. Have to see how efficient it is I suppose. I can work on adding a Kinetic Wind Generator with a wooden rotor. If they make the Heat stuff a little more interesting I might add a refined iron rotor later. The regular iron rotor seems like a waste. --Trifler (talk) 10:13, 28 February 2015 (CET)
Actually, they are all renewable even without replication. Obviously wood and iron are renewable (iron from Ferru, Golems, Zombies). Refined Iron requires iron, Compressed Air Cells (you get the cells back), and heat (which can be generated greenly). If you're really going to put in the effort, the Slag byproduct of refining iron actually can be centrifuged to make a renewable source of Coal Dust, or make a Wither Skeleton farm on top of the Nether. I'll try and update more of the wiki, too.--Max Shen (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2015 (CET)
Do you know how to make an Iron Shaft? It hasn't been added to the wiki yet, and no version of the Kinetic Wind Generator can be built without it. Also, do you know if the Manual Kinetic Generator is working yet? I see it listed on the Recipes page. --Trifler (talk) 16:37, 2 March 2015 (CET)
You make the Shaft (Iron) in a Metal Former by extruding an Iron Block. The Manual Kinetic Generator works perfectly, it generates 100 EU per action (right click) when connected to a Kinetic Generator. I get ~15EU/t by standing there holding the right mouse button.--Max Shen (talk) 17:40, 4 March 2015 (CET)
Cool. Thx. :) --Trifler (talk) 05:49, 5 March 2015 (CET)