Talk:Luminator - Revision history

Mee: /* Switching on and off? */

2012-08-23T18:49:33Z

Switching on and off?

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	: This isn't a direct answer to your question, but you can hide RedPower red alloy wire inside the same amount of space that foamed cable would take up by using Covers, which can be made with handsaws. [[User:Hawk777\|Hawk777]] 06:22, 2 April 2012 (CEST)		: This isn't a direct answer to your question, but you can hide RedPower red alloy wire inside the same amount of space that foamed cable would take up by using Covers, which can be made with handsaws. [[User:Hawk777\|Hawk777]] 06:22, 2 April 2012 (CEST)

			: I totally support the idea of removing Luminator's internal storage - it prevents many fine projects

	== issue with tin cable ==		== issue with tin cable ==

Strill: /* Light emitting from wrong side? */

2012-08-18T13:24:33Z

Light emitting from wrong side?

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	: Try changing the smooth lighting settings, that worked for me with sub-blocks. [[User:RaiderZulu\|RaiderZulu]] 11:47, 15 August 2012 (EST)		: Try changing the smooth lighting settings, that worked for me with sub-blocks. [[User:RaiderZulu\|RaiderZulu]] 11:47, 15 August 2012 (EST)
			: No, this is definitely a bug. Instead of being small squares when attached to the ceiling they appear as floor tiles, and only glow on the top. It doesn't appear to be possible to actually power ceiling luminators.[[User:Strill\|Strill]] 13:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

RaiderZulu: /* Light emitting from wrong side? */

2012-08-16T03:53:40Z

Light emitting from wrong side?

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	Is this some sort of bug or are they just not meant to be ceiling panels?		Is this some sort of bug or are they just not meant to be ceiling panels?

			: Try changing the smooth lighting settings, that worked for me with sub-blocks. [[User:RaiderZulu\|RaiderZulu]] 11:47, 15 August 2012 (EST)

RaiderZulu: /* Not worth it? */

2012-08-16T03:47:40Z

Not worth it?

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	I know that with technic pack/tekkit RedPower2 lamps are an alternative, but they are full size blocks, so they are no good either.		I know that with technic pack/tekkit RedPower2 lamps are an alternative, but they are full size blocks, so they are no good either.

	: I find them only useful when a cable is already there and there is a guaranteed energy source, such as at the top of the tower ("The Monstrosity," as I call it, because of the way I built) it that bears the windmills for my Crop Defense Array (16 Tesla Coils are harder to power than you might think) or on a Glass Fiber Cable suspended over a pass (I have a Helicopter in that world). Another use is to burn creepers.[[User:RaiderZulu\|RaiderZulu]] 11:47, 15 August 2012 (EST)		: I find them only useful when a cable is already there and there is a guaranteed energy source, such as at the top of the tower ("The Monstrosity," as I call it, because of the way I built it) it that bears the windmills for my Crop Defense Array (16 Tesla Coils are harder to power than you might think) or on a Glass Fiber Cable suspended over a pass (I have a Helicopter in that world). Another use is to burn creepers.[[User:RaiderZulu\|RaiderZulu]] 11:47, 15 August 2012 (EST)

	== Odd issues and feedback ==		== Odd issues and feedback ==

RaiderZulu: /* Not worth it? */

2012-08-16T03:46:55Z

Not worth it?

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	I know that with technic pack/tekkit RedPower2 lamps are an alternative, but they are full size blocks, so they are no good either.		I know that with technic pack/tekkit RedPower2 lamps are an alternative, but they are full size blocks, so they are no good either.

			: I find them only useful when a cable is already there and there is a guaranteed energy source, such as at the top of the tower ("The Monstrosity," as I call it, because of the way I built) it that bears the windmills for my Crop Defense Array (16 Tesla Coils are harder to power than you might think) or on a Glass Fiber Cable suspended over a pass (I have a Helicopter in that world). Another use is to burn creepers.[[User:RaiderZulu\|RaiderZulu]] 11:47, 15 August 2012 (EST)

	== Odd issues and feedback ==		== Odd issues and feedback ==

RaiderZulu: /* Strength/brightness? */

2012-08-16T02:06:46Z

Strength/brightness?

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	: As much as many people would like various industrial light sources to be really bright, the Minecraft lighting engine doesn't (easily) allow that. Torches have a brightness of 14 within the torch block itself. Fire has a brightness of 15, and the engine doesn't allow levels above 15. This same issue has been raised with Eloraam for RedPower lumar lamps. We'd all like it and it might happen some day, but if so it'll either require some cooperation from Mojang or else quite a bit of work in Minecraft Forge, from what I've heard. [[User:Hawk777\|Hawk777]] 08:55, 19 January 2012 (CET)		: As much as many people would like various industrial light sources to be really bright, the Minecraft lighting engine doesn't (easily) allow that. Torches have a brightness of 14 within the torch block itself. Fire has a brightness of 15, and the engine doesn't allow levels above 15. This same issue has been raised with Eloraam for RedPower lumar lamps. We'd all like it and it might happen some day, but if so it'll either require some cooperation from Mojang or else quite a bit of work in Minecraft Forge, from what I've heard. [[User:Hawk777\|Hawk777]] 08:55, 19 January 2012 (CET)

			: I have a possible solution to the problem of the light limit. In trying to figure out how to get a really bright light for a possible xneon arclamp mod (I have yet to learn Java), I realized that an air like block with luminescence of 15 could be used as a work around technical block by spawning it around the light souorce. This could also be used to simulate light effects, such as radiosity (the diffuse reflection of light onto a surface), even artificial sunlight. Now how fun would that be to have zombies burn INSIDE your house at night? [[User:RaiderZulu\|RaiderZulu]] 10:05, 15 August 2012 (EST)

	== Switching on and off? ==		== Switching on and off? ==

DexLuther: /* Light emitting from wrong side? */ new section

2012-07-31T00:47:35Z

Light emitting from wrong side?: new section

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	In general most people I ask think luminators are stupid due to their restrictions and impracticality. Anther and more general problem is that wiring acts as a full block and can't be covered with redpower covers in the same block.		In general most people I ask think luminators are stupid due to their restrictions and impracticality. Anther and more general problem is that wiring acts as a full block and can't be covered with redpower covers in the same block.

			== Light emitting from wrong side? ==

			After messing with these devices for the better part of an hour and failing (they kept exploding), I decided to test my set up on a smaller scale.

			I Hid an MFE in the ceiling with glass fiber cable and an LV transformer. Set up some fiber cable coming out of the LV's output and attached a luminator to the cable about 3 blocks away. It lit up! Only problem is that the underside of the luminator remains dark. The light surrounds the device, but only the side attached to the cable appears lit, which makes things look kinda weird.

			Is this some sort of bug or are they just not meant to be ceiling panels?

Gazebo9000: /* Odd issues and feedback */ new section

2012-07-03T23:41:35Z

Odd issues and feedback: new section

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	I know that with technic pack/tekkit RedPower2 lamps are an alternative, but they are full size blocks, so they are no good either.		I know that with technic pack/tekkit RedPower2 lamps are an alternative, but they are full size blocks, so they are no good either.

			== Odd issues and feedback ==

			Does glass fiber optic wire not work with luminators?


			Also they appear to act as full size blocks. For example if I put them on the ground next to a chest I can't click the side of the chest to open it. Even though I can physically see it, the game acts if it is covered by a solid block. They need to act like panels IMHO. Also a wrench should be able to change the size of the luminator when mounted on a wire, other wise the only size you get is the full square unless you plan on wasting endless time recharging them with batteries.


			Another issue I noticed when I tried to make a whole floor of them was that they wouldn't stay at full brightness. If I got too far away from the power source, only 10 blocks or so, they stayed very dim. Some of them went full bright again when I ripped out the luminators that were furthest away. Also I think a powered wrench should be able to remove the luminator without destroying it. It is a machine after all.


			In general most people I ask think luminators are stupid due to their restrictions and impracticality. Anther and more general problem is that wiring acts as a full block and can't be covered with redpower covers in the same block.

Kirsham at 19:05, 30 May 2012

2012-05-30T19:05:01Z

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	: One luminator uses up 1EU/t, the exact amount one solar panel can create. The flicker comes from the energy running out constantly. Each luminator has a 10000 EU capacity, so you either have to charge them up initially with a RE-battery and then keep the light on with solar panels, or put an energy buffer like batbox or similiar between and keep it filled. -[[User:Styl1sh\|Styl1sh]] 12:04, 13 April 2012 (CEST)		: One luminator uses up 1EU/t, the exact amount one solar panel can create. The flicker comes from the energy running out constantly. Each luminator has a 10000 EU capacity, so you either have to charge them up initially with a RE-battery and then keep the light on with solar panels, or put an energy buffer like batbox or similiar between and keep it filled. -[[User:Styl1sh\|Styl1sh]] 12:04, 13 April 2012 (CEST)

			==Not worth it?==
			Does anyone else feel as if luminators aren't worth the energy cost? I mean, they spend 10 000 EU in ~2 in game days, light as much as a torch, and either needs constant power (hard to conceal the wiring) or regular manual recharging. Heck, if lighting was this expensive and inconvenient in real life people would still use candles!

			I know that with technic pack/tekkit RedPower2 lamps are an alternative, but they are full size blocks, so they are no good either.

Styl1sh at 11:12, 3 May 2012

2012-05-03T11:12:01Z

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	: This isn't a direct answer to your question, but you can hide RedPower red alloy wire inside the same amount of space that foamed cable would take up by using Covers, which can be made with handsaws. [[User:Hawk777\|Hawk777]] 06:22, 2 April 2012 (CEST)		: This isn't a direct answer to your question, but you can hide RedPower red alloy wire inside the same amount of space that foamed cable would take up by using Covers, which can be made with handsaws. [[User:Hawk777\|Hawk777]] 06:22, 2 April 2012 (CEST)

	~~== Placed on cable ==~~
	When Luminator is placed on cable, it covers everything behind it, which is great. But even as the hitbox covers the lamp fine, they invisibly obstruct the whole block, and thus making it easy to destroy by mistake.


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	: One luminator uses up 1EU/t, the exact amount one solar panel can create. The flicker comes from the energy running out constantly. Each luminator has a 10000 EU capacity, so you either have to charge them up initially with a RE-battery and then keep the light on with solar panels, or put an energy buffer like batbox or similiar between and keep it filled. -[[User:Styl1sh\|Styl1sh]] 12:04, 13 April 2012 (CEST)		: One luminator uses up 1EU/t, the exact amount one solar panel can create. The flicker comes from the energy running out constantly. Each luminator has a 10000 EU capacity, so you either have to charge them up initially with a RE-battery and then keep the light on with solar panels, or put an energy buffer like batbox or similiar between and keep it filled. -[[User:Styl1sh\|Styl1sh]] 12:04, 13 April 2012 (CEST)

	:: ya, it still does it with solar flower producing 27 EU/t (before the batbox) and they never apper to charge. as for after the batbox i've never tried using tin after, I'll give that a shot.--[[User:Xarses\|Xarses]] 20:20, 13 April 2012 (CEST)
	:::Is it producing 27 EU/t or twenty seven 1 EU/t packets. Cables can handle multiple packets each tick but i believe devices can only send or receive one packet at a time although im not sure about that. Obviously batboxes and other storage devices can receive many packets each tick but it's possible that the luminators are only taking one packet at a time not all 27.{{User:Exiton/sig}} 01:34, 17 April 2012 (CEST)


	::: Ok, so unlike the page, they except more than 5 EU/T from external, as it burns out on tin after the bat pack, as to Exiton, yes I'd assume its 27x1 EU/t packets, upon inspection, connecting only one luminator to the end of 4 solar pannels. It appears that the luminator isn't drawing any current according to the EU meter. --[[User:Xarses\|Xarses]] 06:15, 19 April 2012 (CEST)