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User talk:Feanturi

2012-03-20T12:23:31Z

Altaree:

You can send me requests for support as well as requests for new page creation.

=== How to ===
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== Requests ==

===New Template===
I wanted to improve the information in some of the tables listing fuel types and usage so i created [[User:Exiton/sandbox|this]]. I figured i could make it into a tempate and inclue it at the bottom of all reliant articles so that it's easy to update any changes across the wiki. Thinking about makeing another one for EU usage across all the different machines, macerator, extractor, compressor etc... Anyway if you like it create a new template and ill move the data over and update the corresponding articles. Leave a message on my talk page.
* call it '''Template:Fuel Usage''' or something similar
:--{{User:Exiton/sig}} 02:12, 4 March 2012 (CET)

==Download page edit==
http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Talk:Download

Talk:Download

2012-03-19T21:04:47Z

Altaree: Fix forge links and version

Need to use this link for forge:
http://www.mod-buildcraft.com/forums/topic/forge-downloads/

Also, needs to be using a forge version > 1.4.0.57 for IC2 1.8.1 for MC 1.2.3

Talk:Crop block

2012-01-25T16:18:14Z

Altaree: just a simple edit to get the recipe in

Crop blocks are used by the agriculture system to create hybrid crops.

== Recipe ==
(Think boots made of sticks)
{{Grid/Crafting Table
|A1=|B1=|C1=
|A2=Stick|B2=|C2=Stick
|A3=Stick|B3=|C3=Stick
|Output=Crop Block
}}

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Seed Bag

2012-01-25T16:15:39Z

Altaree:

Seed bags are a type of seed that is sometimes dropped by plants grown on a [[crop block]]. These can be used in the [[Cropnalyzer]] to give you information on the plant it grows, such as growth, gain, and resistance. They are only dropped by plants in crop blocks and are used in cross breeding to create better plants. Planting two hybrid seed bags in crop blocks with a cross breeder crop block between them will combine the two plants characteristics.

== Recipe ==

{{Grid/Crafting Table
|A1=|B1=|C1=
|A2=|B2=Wheat|C2=
|A3=|B3=|C3=
|Output=Seed Bag
}}

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Tutorial:Wiring

2011-10-25T13:22:11Z

Altaree: add a link to the forum post so users can easily get help.

<big>Special Thanks To: [http://www.minecraftforum.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=270214 Kingy24]! </big>

updated to v6.80 by [[User:Talonius|Talonius]]
'''Please note this tutorial was made for IC1 and is largely out of date for IC2'''

Warning!!! This tutorial is under a update to IC2 and may contain incorrect info until it is finished(and even then their may be a mistake(hey I'm not perfect but i don't see you doing it!))
Forum post about IC2 Wiring: http://forum.industrial-craft.net/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=497

'''First''', [[Cable]]s do not act like Redstone, you can '''not place them diagonally to travel in a stair formation'''. They '''must be placed orthogonally'''.

insert a pic of improper and proper placement of wires here
COMPLETED THE PHOTO just need to upload

Machines will accept power input from '''all 6 sides'''.

[[file:wiring_1.png|link=]]

[[Generator]]s will '''output power from all 6 sides''' (but only from '''one''' side at any one time), however '''don't cover the top of a [[Solar Panel]]''' for obvious reasons.

[[file:wiring_2.png|link=]]

Starting simple this is the most basic set up without omitting a [[BatBox]]. The max [[Cable|insulated cable]] length is achieved here. The '''cable is 4 blocks long'''. '''You lose [[EU]] if the current in the cable travels for too long, losing 1 [[EU]] upon reaching the 5th block, then another 1 [[EU]] for every 5 blocks after that.'''

[[file:wiring_3.png|link=]]

This setup will not work as the BatBox is not a splitter, '''it will accept input from 5 sides at the same time but will only output on the output face marked with dot'''.

[[file:wiring_4.png|link=]]

This is a simple buffer, it can be used to store [[EU]]

[[file:wiring_5.png|link=]]

This is a simple 2x solar flower setup with a loop. This will enable you to spread [[EU]] around your Factory and not have it bottleneck in any particular spot. Take note the '''BatBox connecting the generators to the loop.
that way the [[EU]] will be evenly distributed around the area. In the center of the solar flower there is a wire, a normal,average wire.(because of advances in the programing of the wires they now allow to be connected upto 6 sides simultaneously opposed to the 3 side max in IC.)

[[file:wiring_6.png|link=]]

Now for something more advanced, the [[MFE]]. This is an example of an improper setup of an MFE before I place the 2 wires in the second picture

[[file:wiring_7.png|link=]]

and after I placed the 2 wires above the HVT

[[file:wiring_8.png|link=]]

this caused a '''loop of power to be sent from the top of the MFE(output) back into the batBox hence killing the setup.(and wasting the wire because it couldnt handle the power and just melted)
To properly use a MFE, you need to use a [[LV_Transformer|Low Voltage Transformer. the MFE is used to scale the voltage up and the [[LV_Transformer|Low voltage transformer]] to scale it back down. Quite similar to real life and your local power grid.doing this increases the range of the power but needs a better [[Cable]]. The energy loss is less because you are sending less packets that are larger, they '''still lose [[EU]] over the cable but you lose less'''.

[[file:wiring_9.png|link=]]

Next is series of machines, and current splitting. You can have you machines in a row and power them from one MFE the excess is sent back to the MFE and stored. I this setup I have the maximum cable length without loss (to prevent continuous loss of power) and the measurements listed are from right to left and the last one receiving 0 [[EU]]. the Eu splits evenly between each machine as it acts like a cable end.

[[file:wiring_10.png|link=]]

and this is with an MFE output of 50[[EU]]s

[[file:wiring_11.png|link=]]

as you can see it is '''useless to make lines of machines any longer than 5''' and '''4 would be optimal''' as '''the last 2 would receive 8/2 = 4 [[EU]] each''', which will power most common machines easily. You could use the 50 [[EU]] output if you wanted to power say 4 crystal chargers in a row.

You can then save space and stack your machines in a feasible 3x4 array like so.

[[file:wiring_12.png|link=]]

and the back to power them

[[file:wiring_13.png|link=]]

Next up is Miners and making them do what you want them to. I the first setup I have a solar flower powering a MFE => HVT => HVT => Miner. This is a one way operation, but the miner can only accept so much [[EU]] at a time therefore the 2000 [[EU]] sent towards the miner will sometimes be rejected and get sent back. causing loss each way. This can happen as often as once each frame causing massive power loss.

[[file:wiring_14.png|link=]]

A better way to do it is using [[Switch Cable]]s. these accept input on all sides but the bottom, (which is the output). However '''if you apply Redstone current it will make the top output and the bottom input'''. This '''can be used as a switch before sending Eu from the MFE =>HVT'''. This way you can shut the whole operation down and let the MFEs charge up.

[[file:wiring_15.png|link=]]

The miner can be set up to automate with water streams as well. however I use [http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=162515 Feanorith's Mine Factory Mod] that lets you build a conveyor. This is easier then digging trenches and placing water buckets. It also can travel ridiculously long lengths, and never have to dig one block down. This is similar to water running on iceblocks (if you can craft em)

[[file:wiring_16.png|link=]]

Take note that I have '''all but one of the 5 available sides of the miner covered as to direct the item toward the conveyor''', and a small 3 long wall to stop the items from being shot over the conveyor.

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Tutorial:Nuclear Power

2011-10-25T13:20:46Z

Altaree: posted link to the new tutorial on the forum

== WARNING ==
This page is for IC, not IC2. Go here for the IC2 tutorial:
http://forum.industrial-craft.net/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=446

== Nuclear Physics 101 ==

Welcome, to the Industrial Craft School of Nuclear-arity! 
Here, we shall give some tips and tricks to avoid turning your '''new home''' into a '''melting slag heap'''!

=== Step 1: Finding [[Uranium_Ore|Uranium Ore]] ===

There is no easy way to find Uranium Ore short of mining, mining, mining. It appears randomly in '''very''' small veins, and has been seen on the surface at sea level. It also appears rarely in the walls of caverns. It must be mined with an Iron or better Pickaxe, and will drop 1×[[Uranium]] for every 1×Ore that is successfully mined.

=== Step 2: My First Reactor(tm) ===

The Chernobyl-2 [[Nuclear Reactor]] is expensive to build, relying as it does on hard-to-obtain elements like Glowstone and energy-intensive materials like [[Advanced Alloy|Advanced Alloy Plates]]. Don't expect to build one in your first week.

=== Step 3: Finding Your 3-Mile Island ===

Siting your [[Nuclear Reactor]] is crucial! While it can be removed using a [[Wrench]], the possibility of destroying your precious machine in the process makes this a risky proposition. Ideally you'll have a lake or ocean nearby; the Chernobyl-2 works best (and safest) when surrounded by a 3×3 '''cube''' of water.

If you don't have v8.00 or higher, you have to use sand or gravel initially to allow you to connect [[Cable]] underwater; remember that once placed, a cable is unaffected by water. In v8.00, cables can be placed underwater.

=== Step 4: Heavy Water ===

In SMP environs, you may wish to site your reactor somewhere more... secluded. Building a Reactor Containment Vessel will be essential, nothing less than Obsidian, or [[Reinforced Stone]] should be used in the construction. Using buckets to place water as you build should allow you to create the necessary cube of water surrounding your Reactor. Use a [[Reinforced Stone Door]] for access. Ensure that there is sufficient blast shielding to minimize destruction of property in the case of an accident!

=== Step 5: The Green Glow ===

Ok, so now you've got a Reactor suspended in water, with or without cables attached. You've got at least one piece of [[Uranium Ore]]. Congratulations, world domination your nuclear future awaits! Right-click on your Reactor to open up the GUI, and place your Uranium Ore into the '''top''' slot of the Reactor, and see the Reactor power up as if by magic! Refining Uranium Ore takes a long time, though, so come back in a day or so after loading.

=== Step 6: Bars of Plenty ===

Once the refinement process concludes, you will see that your Ore has been transformed, into not 1, not 2, but '''4''' shiny new [[Uranium Fuel Ingot|Uranium Fuel Ingots]]!! These are the only source of power generation in a Reactor and should never be mixed with Explosives in an attempt to make Nuclear Weapons! Allow your Reactor to process all your remaining Uranium Ore into Ingots.

=== Step 7: The Soothing Hum of Power ===

Whenever your Reactor is not refining Ore, you can of course use it to generate Nuclear Power by placing 1 or more [[Uranium Fuel Ingot|Uranium Fuel Ingots]] into the '''bottom''' slot of the Reactor. Each Ingot will provide a staggering '''40,000EU''' of Energy, and your Reactor outputs a '''massive 20EU/s!''' That's equivalent to '''4''' coal-burning [[Generator|Generators]]- AT ONCE!!

=== Step 8: Holy Fukushima! (with apologies to the easily offended!) ===

If the proper precautions are taken, a Nuclear explosion can be mostly contained and the damage sustained minimal. In the wrong situation though, a Nuclear disaster can leave you with a pretty impressive hole in the ground where your prized workshop used to be. ALWAYS ensure your reactor has '''at least''' 1 square of water surrounding it in every possible direction, and screen it with Obsidian or [[Reinforced Stone]] for maximum protection.

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Talk:Mass Fabricator

2011-09-21T17:37:25Z

Altaree:

As of v7.02 removing a mass fabricator with a wrench yields an advanced machine (possibly a bug) --[[User:Golfandsurf|Golfandsurf]] 21:59, 17 May 2011 (CEST)

{{Reply|user=Feanturi|space=:|agree=reply|reply=Like every machine the [[Mass Fabricator]] got a small chance to drop a machine block (for mass fabricator it is advanced machine).}}

The Mass Fabricator only seems to require 200.000 EU instead of 2.000.000 --[[User:Masterhand0000|Masterhand0000]] 16:24, 30 July 2011 (CEST)

Agreed, and my scrap input did not seem to work, but that may have been from too slow energy input (64 EU/s) --[[User:Dimpl|Dimpl]] 12:34, 2 August 2011 (CEST)

would a list of all the possible craftables from the element be added in the future? --[[User:Zulu_217|Zulu_217]] 16.06, 28 August 2011 (AEST)
:would anyone be opposed to me making this list, on a seperate Secret: page? --[[User:1n5aN1aC|1n5aN1aC]]

{{Reply|user=Feanturi|agree=Nope|space=:|reply=Maybe there will be a list later, but at the moment nope.}}

What is the slot layout for this machine? I am trying to plan out a room for this to live in with 2 incoming energy lines (main power and a sapling/reed/cactus/wood burning backup gen), a scrap input pipe (to the top?), and a UUM output pipe to my storage. --[[User:Altaree|Altaree]] 17:58, 16 September 2011 (CEST)

{{Reply|user=Altaree|agree=SCIENCE!|space=:|reply=I figured this out, scap gets inserted from the bottom of the device and UUM gets pulled from the side. Odd because the slot layout is one up/one down...}}

Pump

2011-09-16T17:56:55Z

Altaree: Added a note about using this with a miner.

The '''Pump''' is a ingenious piece of tier 2 technology capable of ABSORBING liquids with a minimal use of power!

Of course while it is absorbing all that liquid it will need somewhere to put it so we recommend buying our patented [[Empty Cell|C-600 capsule cell container]]!

WARNING!!!: Currently not working!!! do not attempt to use it as it '''MAY''' not work. on a unrelated note test have shown that saying it may not work really means it WILL not work. HAYO!

Needs to be placed next to a [[miner]] and filled with empty buckets/cells to work.
== Recipe ==

{{Grid/Crafting Table
|A1=Empty Cell|B1=Electronic Circuit|C1=Empty Cell
|A2=Empty Cell|B2=Machine|C2=Empty Cell
|A3=Mining Pipe|B3=Treetap|C3=Mining Pipe
|Output=Pump
}}

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Talk:Induction Furnace

2011-09-16T17:52:47Z

Altaree: Note about not being able to use this block with build craft pipes

This block does not currently play well with build craft. Discussions are in the works to alter minecraft forge to allow build craft pipes to manipulate the inventory of this furnace. --[[User:Altaree|Altaree]] 19:52, 16 September 2011 (CEST)

Talk:Wind Mill

2011-09-16T17:50:16Z

Altaree: add a warning about slot changes

This item no longer has an output slot for full batteries. --[[User:Altaree|Altaree]] 19:50, 16 September 2011 (CEST)

Talk:Solar Panel

2011-09-16T17:49:58Z

Altaree: add a warning about slot changes

This item no longer has an output slot for full batteries. --[[User:Altaree|Altaree]] 19:49, 16 September 2011 (CEST)

Talk:Generator

2011-09-16T17:49:37Z

Altaree: add a warning about slot changes

This item no longer has an output slot for full batteries. --[[User:Altaree|Altaree]] 19:49, 16 September 2011 (CEST)

Cable

2011-09-16T17:39:54Z

Altaree: Notes on splitting/joining cable and distance.

{{Block
|image=cable_ig.png
|type=Wiring
|gravity=No
|dirt=No
|transparent=No
|light=no
|stackable=Yes (64)
}}

The '''Cables''' are the primary means of transferring [[EU]] from one device to another. There are several different tiers of cables, depending on how much current they can tolerate. If too much current is applied to a cable, it will instantly melt. Different tiers are made out of different metals. Furthermore, all cables suffer from distance-related energy losses - long cables will inevitably lose energy in the process of transferring it. There are several ways to offset it - Transformers and insulation. For higher-tier cables, the insulation also reduces the amount of shock damage the player and NPC's receive from touching the cable under high voltage.

Cables can also be painted using the [[Painter]]. This separates them, preventing cables of different colors from interacting with each other. This also greatly reduces the strain on CPU, as large cable meshes with many intersections require the game to peform many CPU-heavy calculations.

== Cable types ==

=== Copper Cable ===

{|
|{{Grid/Crafting Table
|A2=Copper|B2=Copper|C2=Copper
|Output=Uninsulated_Copper_Cable|OA=6
}}
|{{Grid/Crafting Table
|A1=Rubber|B1=Rubber|C1=Rubber
|A2=Copper|B2=Copper|C2=Copper
|A3=Rubber|B3=Rubber|C3=Rubber
|Output=Copper_Cable|OA=6
}}
|}
{{Grid/Crafting Table
|A1=Rubber|B1=Uninsulated_Copper_Cable
|Output=Copper_Cable}}

Copper cables are the cheapest, and the most basic cable tier. They are only capable of handling '''Low Voltage''' (up to 32 [[EU|EU/s]]), however, they suffer the smallest distance-related energy losses out of all the conventional cables, with insulated copper cables having even less energy losses.

=== Other cable types ===

There are 3 additional cable tiers:

* Tier 0: Ultra-Low-Current Cable: data is unknown, and the icon is purple with a red stripe. may not yet be implemented.
* Tier 2: [[Gold Cable]]: can handle up to 128 EU/s, higher energy loss than Copper Cables.
* Tier 3: [[HV Cable]]: can handle up to 2048 EU/s, very high energy loss.
* Tier extra: [[Fibre|Glass Fibre Cable]]: can handle up to 512 EU/s, very low energy loss.

== Cable Efficiency ==

All cables suffer distance-related energy losses, and depending on the tier and insulation of the given cable, the losses can vary greatly. The general unit for cable efficiency is EU/block. It shows how much EU the given cable loses per block. The number is accumulated along the whole length of the cable, and then rounded down to the nearest integer.

{| class="wikitable"
!Cable type
!EU/b
!Energy loss
|-
|Copper Uninsulated
|0.3
|1 EU every 3.33 blocks
|-
|Copper Insulated
|0.2
|1 EU every 5 blocks
|-
|Gold Uninsulated
|0.5
|1 EU every 2 blocks
|-
|Gold Insulated
|0.45
|1 EU every 2.22 blocks
|-
|Gold 2x Insulated
|0.4
|1 EU every 2.5 blocks
|-
|HV Uninsulated
|1
|1 EU every block
|-
|HV Insulated
|0.95
|1 EU every 1.05 blocks
|-
|HV 2x Insulated
|0.9
|1 EU every 1.11 blocks
|-
|HV 4x Insulated
|0.8
|1 EU every 1.25 blocks
|-
|Glas Fibre
|0.05
|1 EU every 20 blocks
|}

== Cable Splitting ==
Up to 6 cables can connect to one other cable. Current will only flow through a cable when requested by a consumer if the loss from the cable length will allow some energy to get to the consumer. i.e. a batbox (32UE) will send across insulated copper to a furnace up to 155 blocks away (5x31). No energy will be sent to a furnace 156 blocks away.

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Talk:Mass Fabricator

2011-09-16T15:58:46Z

Altaree: Slot Layout?

Talk:Cable

2011-06-13T17:54:42Z

Altaree: /* Confused about current behavior */

Can someone please re-embed the video for me? I found it on youtube and can't get it to embed right.

[[User:Stewartspicer|Stewartspicer]] 23:18, 6 June 2011 (CEST)

{{Reply|user=Feanturi|agree=lolz|space=:|reply=Well you can't use HTML on the wiki xD but you can use <code><nowiki><mediaplayer><Youtube-URL></mediaplayer></nowiki></code>}}

== Confused about current behavior ==

I am confused about how currents behave. I have a MFE set at 10EU/s at one end of a cable. The cable then splits into two furnaces. What currents do the furnaces receive when:
1) both furnaces have work to do
2) only one furnace has work to do
3) no furnace has work to do - does energy still leak out of the MFE?
--[[User:Altaree|Altaree]] 19:54, 13 June 2011 (CEST)

Talk:Cable

2011-06-13T17:54:15Z

Altaree: /* Confused about current behavior */ new section